If you and your readers will allow me, Mr Kumpel, I wish to point out a letter that almost brought me to tears. Now when you click on this link (and I've repeated the link below, in case my attempt at embedding it doesn't show up!), you will find a weblog you may not agree with. Please bear with it a while. It is the blog of a UK charity that links both sexuality and humanism. But, as I say, bear with it, and at least read the letter there from a Vermont mom who wrote a very powerful letter to a newspaper there after becoming utterly devastated by the way people treated her gay son in the name of religion. It is one of the most heartfelt documents of its kind I have ever read, well argued, passionate and compassionate, with a mother's understanding of the hurt a son can be made to feel. Thank goodness not all religious people are like those she mentions, but clearly enough are. When you use phrases such as "persist in their perversions", you send a signal to every vulnerable person who hears or reads it, a message that can be very harmful, and, I would venture, a message that is very unchristian in the way I understand the essence of Christianity, which, among other things, enjoins us to love one another, because God created us all, and he created gay people, too (not, presumably, just to throw rocks at them, because that would be perverse). Examine your words and your attitudes, Robert, read Sharon's letter, think about it, add a comment to the blog if you wish (you're very welcome and we always like to hear from people who may not seem to have much in common with us, because sometimes we find common ground). Thanks for sticking with this if you've read this far. I hope you'll go and read the blog post. The blog entry is at http://ptt-blog.blogspot.com/2008/09/sharon-underwoods-message.html. The blog itself is http://ptt-blog.blogspot.com.